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New Year’s Eve is an important day if you do a Backdoor Roth IRA. Read below to find out why.
The Backdoor Roth IRA
I’ve written before about the Backdoor Roth IRA. It is a two step process whereby those not qualifying for a regular Roth IRA contribution can qualify to get money into a Roth IRA. Done over several years, it can help taxpayers grow significant amounts of tax free wealth.
One of the best aspects of the Backdoor Roth IRA is that it does not forego a tax deduction. Most taxpayers ineligible to make a regular Roth IRA contribution are also ineligible to make a deductible traditional IRA contribution. In the vast majority of cases, the choice is between investing money in a taxable account versus investing in a Roth account. For most, a Roth is preferable, since Roths do not attract income taxes on the interest, dividends, and capital gains investments generate.
The Basic Backdoor Roth IRA and the Form 8606
Let’s start with a fairly basic example.
Example 1
Betsy, age 40, earns $300,000 from her W-2 job in 2021, is covered by a workplace 401(k) plan, and has some investment income. Betsy has no balance in a traditional IRA, SEP IRA, or SIMPLE IRA.
At this level of income, Betsy does not qualify for a regular Roth IRA contribution, and she does not qualify to deduct a traditional IRA contribution.
Betsy contributes $6,000 to a traditional IRA on May 20, 2021. The contribution is nondeductible. Because the contribution is nondeductible, Betsy gets a $6,000 basis in her traditional IRA. Betsy must file a Form 8606 with her 2021 tax return to report the nondeductible contribution.
On June 5, 2021, Betsy converts the entire balance in the traditional IRA, $6,003, to a Roth IRA. As of December 31, 2021, Betsy has no balance in a traditional IRA, SEP IRA, or SIMPLE IRA.
Betsy has successfully executed a Backdoor Roth IRA. Here is what page 1 of the Form 8606 Betsy should file with her 2021 income tax return should look like.
Notice here that I am using the 2020 version of the Form 8606 for this and all examples. The 2021 Form 8606 is not yet available as of this writing.
The most important line of page 1 of the Form 8606 is line 6. Line 6 reports the fair market value of all traditional IRAs, SEP IRAs, and SIMPLE IRAs Betsy owns as of year-end. Because Betsy had no traditional IRAs, SEP IRAs, and SIMPLE IRAs as of December 31, 2021, her Backdoor Roth IRA works and is tax efficient. This important number ($0) on line 6 of the Form 8606 is what ensures Betsy’s Backdoor Roth IRA is tax efficient.
Note that Betsy’s Backdoor Roth IRA creates an innocuous $3 of taxable income, which is reported on the top of part 2 of the Form 8606.
The Pro-Rata Rule and December 31st
But what if Betsy did have a balance inside a traditional IRA, SEP IRA, or SIMPLE IRA on December 31, 2021? Would her Backdoor Roth IRA still be tax efficient? Probably not, due to the Pro-Rata Rule.
The Pro-Rata Rule tells us just how much of the basis in her traditional IRA Betsy can recover when she does the Roth conversion step of the Backdoor Roth IRA. Betsy’s $6,000 nondeductible traditional IRA creates $6,000 of basis. As we saw above, Betsy was able to recover 100 percent of her $6,000 of basis against her Roth conversion.
But the Pro-Rata Rule says “not so fast” if Betsy has another traditional IRA, SEP IRA, or SIMPLE IRA on December 31st of the year of any Roth conversion. The Pro-Rata Rule allocates IRA Basis between converted amounts (in Betsy’s case, $6,003) and amounts in traditional IRAs, SEP IRAs, and SIMPLE IRAs on December 31st. Here’s an example.
Example 2
Betsy, age 40, earns $300,000 from her W-2 job in 2021, is covered by a workplace 401(k) plan, and has some investment income. Betsy has no balance in a traditional IRA, SEP IRA, or SIMPLE IRA.
Betsy contributes $6,000 to a traditional IRA on May 20, 2021. The contribution is nondeductible. Because the contribution is nondeductible, Betsy gets a $6,000 basis in her traditional IRA. Betsy must file a Form 8606 with her 2021 tax return to report the nondeductible contribution.
On June 5, 2021, Betsy converts the entire balance in the traditional IRA, $6,003, to a Roth IRA.
On September 1, 2021, Betsy transfers an old 401(k) from a previous employer 401(k) plan to a traditional IRA. On December 31st, that traditional IRA is worth $100,000. The old 401(k) had no after-tax contributions.
This one 401(k)-to-IRA rollover transaction dramatically changes both the taxation of Betsy’s Backdoor Roth IRA and her 2021 Form 8606. Here’s page 1 of the Form 8606.
Line 6 of the Form 8606 now has $100,000 on it instead of $0. That $100,000 causes Betsy to recover only 5.67 percent of the $6,000 of basis she created by making a nondeductible contribution to the traditional IRA. As a result, $5,663 of the $6,003 transferred to the Roth IRA in the Roth conversion step is taxable to Betsy as ordinary income. At a 35% tax rate, the 401(k) to IRA rollover (a nontaxable transaction) cost Betsy $1,982 in federal income tax on her Backdoor Roth IRA. Ouch!
Quick Lesson: The lesson here is that prior to rolling over a 401(k) or other workplace plan to an IRA, taxpayers should consider the impact on any Backdoor Roth IRA planning already done and/or planned for the future. One possible planning alternative is to transfer old employer 401(k) accounts to current employer 401(k) plans.
There is an antidote to the Pro-Rata Rule when one has amounts in traditional IRAs, SEP IRAs, and SIMPLE IRAs. It is transferring the traditional IRA, SEP IRA, or SIMPLE IRA to a qualified plan (such as a 401(k) plan) before December 31st. Here is what that might look like in Betsy’s example.
Example 3
Betsy, age 40, earns $300,000 from her W-2 job in 2021, is covered by a workplace 401(k) plan, and has some investment income. Betsy has no balance in a traditional IRA, SEP IRA, or SIMPLE IRA.
Betsy contributes $6,000 to a traditional IRA on May 20, 2021. The contribution is nondeductible. Because the contribution is nondeductible, Betsy gets a $6,000 basis in her traditional IRA. Betsy must file a Form 8606 with her 2021 tax return to report the nondeductible contribution.
On June 5, 2021, Betsy converts the entire balance in the traditional IRA, $6,003, to a Roth IRA.
On September 1, 2021, Betsy transfers an old 401(k) from a previous employer to a traditional IRA. The old 401(k) had no after-tax contributions.
On November 16, 2021, Betsy transfers the entire balance in this new traditional IRA to her current employer’s 401(k) plan in a direct trustee-to-trustee transfer.
Here is Betsy’s 2021 Form 8606 (page 1) after all of these events:
Betsy got clean by December 31st, so her Backdoor Roth IRA now reverts to the optimized result (just $3 of taxable income) she obtained in Example 1.
Pro-Rata Rule Clean Up
Implementation
From a planning perspective, it is best to clean up old traditional IRAs/SEP IRAs/SIMPLE IRAs prior to, not after, executing the Roth conversion step of a Backdoor Roth IRA. I say that because things happen in life. There is absolutely no guarantee that those intending to roll amounts from IRAs to workplace qualified plans will get that accomplished by December 31st.
Further, transfers from one retirement account to another are usually best done through a direct “trustee-to-trustee” transfer to minimize the risk that the money in the retirement account accidentally is distributed to the individual, causing potential tax and penalties.
Before cleaning up old traditional IRAs, SEP IRAs, and SIMPLE IRAs, one should consider the investment choices and fees inside their employer retirement plan (such as a 401(k)). If the investment options are not good, and/or the fees are high, perhaps cleaning up an IRA to move money into less desirable investments is not worth it. This is a subjective judgment that must weigh the potential tax and investment benefits and drawbacks.
Tax Issues
Amazingly enough, the Pro-Rata Rule is concerned with only one day: December 31st. A taxpayer can have a balance in a traditional IRA, SEP IRA, or SIMPLE IRA on any day other than December 31st, and it does not count for purposes of the Pro-Rata Rule. Perhaps December 31st should be called Pro-Rata Rule Day instead of New Year’s Eve. 😉
Extra care should be taken when cleaning up (a) large amounts in any type of IRA and (b) any SIMPLE IRA. While it is fairly obvious that significant sums should be moved only after considering all the relevant investment, tax, and execution issues, the SIMPLE IRA provides its own nuances. Any SIMPLE IRA cannot be rolled to an account other than a SIMPLE IRA within the SIMPLE IRA’s first two years of existence. Thus, SIMPLE IRAs must be appropriately aged before doing any sort of Backdoor Roth IRA clean up planning.
Spouses are entirely separate for Pro-Rata Rule purposes, even in community property states. Cleaning up one spouse, or failing to clean up one spouse, has absolutely no impact on the taxation of the other spouse’s Backdoor Roth IRA.
Lastly, non spousal inherited IRAs do not factor into a taxpayer’s application of the Pro-Rata Rule. Each non spousal inherited IRA has its own separate, hermetically sealed Pro-Rata Rule calculation. The inheriting beneficiary does a Pro-Rata Rule calculation on all IRAs he/she owns as the original owner, separate from any inherited IRAs. In addition, non spousal inherited IRAs cannot be rolled into a 401(k).
Mega Backdoor Roth
Good news: the concerns addressed in this blog post generally do not apply with respect to the Mega Backdoor Roth (sometimes referred to as a Mega Backdoor Roth IRA, though a Roth IRA does not necessarily have to be involved). Qualified plans such as 401(k)s are not subject to the Pro-Rata Rule.
While 401(k)s are not subject to the Pro-Rata Rule, amounts within a particular 401(k) plan’s after-tax 401(k) are subject to the “cream-in-the-coffee” rule I previously wrote about here. Thus, if there is growth on Mega Backdoor Roth contributions before they are moved out of the after-tax 401(k), generally speaking either the taxpayer must pay income tax on the growth (if moved to a Roth account) or the taxpayer can separately roll the growth to a traditional IRA (which could then create a rather small Pro-Rata Rule issue with future Backdoor Roth IRAs). Fortunately, the cream-in-the-coffee rule has a much narrower reach than the Pro-Rata Rule.
Backdoor Roth IRA Tax Return Reporting
Watch me discuss Backdoor Roth IRA tax return reporting.
Conclusion
Get your IRAs in order so you can enjoy New Year’s Eve!
December 31st is an important date when it comes to Backdoor Roth IRA planning. It is important to plan to have no (or at a minimum, very small) balances in traditional IRAs, SEP IRAs, and SIMPLE IRAs on December 31st when planning Backdoor Roth IRAs.
None of what is discussed in this blog post is advice for any particular taxpayer. Those working through Backdoor Roth IRA planning issues are often well advised to reach out to professional advisors regarding their own tax situation.
Further Reading
I did a blog post about Backdoor Roth IRA tax return reporting here.
I did a deep dive on the taxation of Roth IRA withdrawals here.
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Is the backdoor closing? If a recently released proposal from the House Ways & Means Committee is enacted, then yes it is.
My analysis and commentary below is just my initial take on the proposed new laws: it is subject to revision.
UPDATE December 18, 2021
The update as of December 18, 2021 can be read here. Turns out that as of now (December 18th) my predictive analysis offered in November appears rather spot on. But remember, things can change.
Here’s what I wrote in November: On November 19, 2021, the House of Representatives passed the proposals discussed below. To my mind, the passage of this legislation is a 26.2 mile marathon: Passage in the House is the first mile, and passage in the Senate is the next 25.2 miles. There are absolutely no guarantees as to whether the proposals ultimately become law. My view is that passage in the Senate is going to be much more difficult than passage in the House.
Backdoor Roths
The Backdoor Roth IRA has been a popular transaction for over a decade. It allows those unable to make a direct Roth IRA contribution to get an annual contribution into a Roth IRA through a two-step process. There is a 401(k) version popularly referred to as the Mega Backdoor Roth IRA, which allows taxpayers to move significant amounts into Roth accounts using after-tax 401(k) contributions.
House Ways & Means Proposal
On September 13, 2021, the House Ways and Means committee released legislative text and an explanation of proposed new rules that would change the Roth landscape.
Elimination of Backdoor Roth IRAs and Mega Backdoor Roth IRAs
Effective in 2022, after-tax amounts in IRAs could not be converted to Roth IRAs. This rule would apply to all taxpayers regardless of their level of adjusted gross income. This rule would eliminate the Backdoor Roth IRA, as amounts contributed to a nondeductible traditional IRA (the first step of a Backdoor Roth IRA) could not be converted to a Roth IRA.
The bill would also eliminate after-tax contributions to qualified plans. As a result, workplace plans such as 401(k)s could no longer offer the Mega Backdoor Roth.
Effect on 2021 Backdoor Roth IRAs
In a twist, the new rule would effectively impose a deadline on all 2021 Backdoor Roth IRA planning: December 31, 2021. If the new law is passed, both the nondeductible traditional IRA contribution step and the Roth conversion step for a Backdoor Roth IRA would need to be completed by 2021 in order to do a 2021 Backdoor Roth IRA.
Usually, the deadline to worry about from a Backdoor Roth IRA perspective is the deadline to make the nondeductible traditional IRA contribution, usually April 15th of the following year. There is no particular deadline to complete the Roth conversion step. By prohibiting Roth conversions of after-tax money in traditional IRAs beginning January 1, 2022, Congress effectively makes December 31, 2021 the deadline to execute the Roth conversion step of a 2021 Backdoor Roth IRA.
I wrote about how the legislative proposal impacts the approach to 2021 Backdoor Roth IRA planning and deadlines here.
I have previously written about late or “split-year” Backdoor Roth IRAs under current law here.
Update on Legislative Proposals (As of November 4, 2021)
On October 28th, a new tax proposal came out which did not have the Backdoor elimination proposals. However, a second new tax proposal issued on November 3rd did contain the Backdoor Roth elimination proposals. Based on the current political landscape, there is significant doubt as to whether any tax proposal is enacted during this Congress. However, there is at least some chance the Backdoor Roth proposals are enacted.
Elimination of Roth Conversions for High Income Taxpayers Beginning in 2032
The legislative proposal also eliminates Roth conversions in any year a taxpayer’s adjusted taxable income is $400K (single filers) or $450K (married filing joint) starting in the year 2032.
A couple of observations about this rule. First, this rule would have no practical effect on the FI community. Usually, those in the FI community avoid taxable Roth conversions during high income years. Taxable Roth conversions (such as the so-called Roth Conversion Ladder strategy) are usually executed during early retirement before collecting Social Security. Those years often have artificially low taxable income, so a high income cap on the ability to do a Roth conversion is a rule without consequence for the FI community.
Second, you might be wondering: why the heck are they changing the tax law 10 years in the future? Why not now? The answer lies in how Congress “scores” tax bills. Taxable Roth conversions, particularly in the near term, increase tax revenue. An immediate repeal of Roth conversions would “cost” the government money in the new few years. But by delaying implementation for 10 years, Congress is able to predict that taxpayers, facing a future with no Roth conversions, will increase Roth conversions in 2030 and 2031, increasing tax revenues in those years.
Outlook
Congress is closely divided. There is absolutely no guarantee this bill will pass both houses of Congress and be signed by the President. That said, these proposed rules are now “out there” and being “out there” is the first step towards a tax rule becoming law.
I will Tweet and blog about any future developments in this regard.
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The Roth IRA: tax free retirement income. What’s not to love?
But wait a minute. What Congress gives Congress can take away, right? Might Congress, looking for tax revenues to pay off the debt, simply make Roth distributions in retirement taxable? Not very likely.
While I have no evidence to support this proposition, my guess is that Roth account owners vote at very high rates. Voting to tax Roth withdrawals in retirement seems to be a good way to create a motivated constituency to deny members of Congress re-election. I’m hardly the first person to argue that it is very unlikely that Congress will ever subject Roth withdrawals to income taxation.
The Value Added Tax
There are indirect ways for Congress to attack Roths and tax some of that otherwise tax free account value. One way some worry about is the value-added tax, otherwise known as the VAT. The VAT is a consumption tax on goods and services. The EU has a website here describing the VAT in the European Union. A VAT functions like a sales tax and can be added at any or all levels of production. Many developed countries have a VAT, but the United States does not.
Roths and the VAT
A VAT has the potential to increase the price of goods and/or services, and thus, to potentially eat away at value inside Roth accounts.
Here is a simplified example of how that would work.
Maria is retired. Her annual consumption is approximately $95,000, $5,000 of which is property taxes. She lives off $25,000 a year in Social Security income and $70,000 a year in withdrawals from her Roth IRA. She pays no income taxes on those withdrawals. If a 10 percent VAT were enacted on retail sales, she would need to withdraw approximately $9,000 (10 percent of her current $90,000 non-property tax annual consumption) more from her Roth IRA to pay for her current level of consumption. Instead of using an income tax, the government collects $9,000 from her Roth IRA annually by imposing a VAT.
The VAT functions as a tax on a Roth IRA. As Maria has to withdraw more from her Roth to maintain the same level of consumption, the VAT also reduces the value of amounts inside a Roth IRA. Does this mean a Roth IRA is less desirable?
For the reasons argued below, I believe that the answer is No. First, it should be remembered that were a VAT to be implemented, is almost certain to be implemented in addition to the current federal income tax. Sure, if the United States were to switchfrom an income tax to a VAT traditional IRA owners would win big (having previously received an income tax deduction without a later income tax charge) and Roth IRA owners would lose big. But a switch from an income tax to a VAT is almost certainly not happening.
Second, when assessing the value of Roth accounts in a United States with a VAT, one must compare them to the alternatives: traditional retirement accounts and taxable accounts.
Traditional Versus Roth with a VAT
Let’s start out by examining the difference between a Roth IRA and a traditional IRA if there is a federal VAT. Here is an example.
Joe is 65 years old and retired. He is a lifelong New York Jets fan, and decides he wants to go Super Bowl LVI, to see his Jets, presumably the AFC representatives in the game. One ticket costs $10,000 and Joe’s only source of funds for the purchase is his retirement account. Joe’s marginal federal income tax rate is 22 percent. Here are the results if Joe has a traditional IRA and a Roth IRA both without a federal VAT on the ticket and with a 5 percent federal VAT on the ticket:
No VAT
No VAT
5% VAT
5% VAT
IRA Type
Amount Needed
Income Tax Due
Amount Needed
Income Tax Due
Traditional
$12,821
$2,821
$13,462
$2,962
Roth
$10,000
$0
$10,500
$0
Hopefully you can see what is going on in the table. With a traditional IRA, one cannot simply withdraw $10,000 to pay for a $10,000 expense. There will be income tax due on the withdrawal. In order to net out $10,000 to pay for the ticket, Joe must withdraw $12,821, which covers the cost of the ticket and the 22 percent federal income tax (assume Joe lives in Florida so there’s no state income tax). This is computed as the amount needed ($10,000) divided by 1 minus the tax rate (1 minus .22), which equals $12,821.
With a 5 percent VAT, Joe must pay $10,500 for the Super Bowl ticket. From his traditional IRA, he must withdraw $13,462, computed as the amount needed ($10,500) divided by 1 minus the tax rate (1 minus .22).
As we are about to learn, paying a VAT with a traditional IRA creates a new tax: income tax on the VAT. Paying a VAT with a Roth IRA avoids this new tax.
If Joe pays for his Super Bowl ticket with a traditional IRA, he needs $641 more from his traditional IRA in a VAT environment to pay for the Super Bowl ticket. He must pay $141 in additional income tax to cover this additional withdrawal. The income tax on the VAT is $110 (22 percent of $500), the income tax on the income tax on the VAT is $24 (22 percent of $110), and there is approximately $7 of income tax on the remainder of the income tax required.
See this spreadsheet for the income tax calculation. Incredibly, it is possible to pay income tax on the income tax on the income tax on the income tax on the VAT if you pay the VAT from a traditional IRA. It will get much worse as expenses increase beyond the $10,000 tackled in this example.
The first lesson: a VAT hurts those with traditional IRAs, since they will have to increase their taxable withdrawals to pay for goods and services subject to the VAT. When paid with a traditional retirement account, VAT creates several new taxes: the VAT itself, the income tax on the VAT, the income tax on the income tax on the VAT, etc.
The second lesson: if a VAT is enacted, the Roth protects retirees from the income tax payable on the VAT. The 5 percent VAT increases the total tax cost of the $10,000 ticket by $641 if one uses a traditional IRA but only by $500 if one uses a Roth IRA. Having a Roth protects against income tax on the VAT itself. This makes a Roth an even more desirable planning alternative if there is a VAT than if there is no VAT.
The income tax on the VAT is another tax villain the Roth can successfully defeat.
Roth Versus Taxable with a VAT
I believe the logic applied in the Roth versus Traditional VAT environment applies in assessing Roths versus taxable accounts in a VAT environment. To fund consumption, retirees will have to sell more of their taxable brokerage accounts to pay for the now increased price of goods and services, resulting in higher capital gains (and thus, more capital gains taxes) in many cases. Using a Roth withdrawal to pay a VAT protects against those additional capital gains taxes.
Planning
If one believes that a VAT is coming, there is not much, to my mind, to be done from a financial planning perspective, other than increasing amounts in Roth accounts. One might purchase durable goods in advance of the enactment of a VAT, but that sort of planning is of limited value. How many refrigerators can you stockpile for your future use? For those worried about a VAT, the tactics that appear effective are to increase Roth contributions and/or conversions.
While a VAT would not be good news, it makes the Roth planning decision more likely to be the advantageous planning decision.
Paying a VAT out of a Roth avoids the income tax on the VAT (and the resulting additional income taxes) retirees incur when paying the VAT out of a traditional IRA. A Roth also avoids increased capital gains taxes resulting from using taxable brokerage accounts to pay a VAT.
Conclusion
A VAT is not good news for Roth IRA owners, but it is worse news for traditional IRA owners. Roths limit the tax damage of a VAT to the VAT itself in a way neither traditional retirement accounts nor taxable accounts are capable of. In the age-old traditional versus Roth debate, the possibility of a future VAT moves the needle (if ever so slightly) in the direction of the Roth.
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Last month the blog discussed the beginning of the self-employment journey. Specifically, it discussed how one pays taxes when they become self-employed. This post goes further. It explores a potentially powerful tax planning for self-employed solopreneurs, the S corporation.
None of the below is tax advice for any particular taxpayer. Note that if you are considering an S corporation, you are generally well advised to work with a tax professional before and during the process of implementing an S corporation.
The S Corporation Concept
Generally speaking, a corporation is subject to federal income tax at a 21 percent rate. For example, if Acme Incorporated has $100,000 of taxable income for the year, it owes the IRS $21,000 of federal income tax. Further, the shareholders are subject to taxes on the receipt of dividends from the corporation. If Acme Incorporated pays its after tax profit of $79,000 to its shareholders, generally its shareholders must include the receipt of the dividend in taxable income (though the dividend may qualify for the favorable qualified dividend income rates).
Based on both the corporation and the shareholders having to pay tax on the same income, it is said that many corporations (so-called “C corporations”) are subject to double tax.
For smaller businesses, this can be very problematic. The tax rules recognize this, and thus, for certain small business entities, allow an “S corporation” election (meaning that the corporation is taxed under the rules of Subchapter S of the Internal Revenue Code).
S corporations are generally subject to only one level of tax, as all of the tax items of the S corporation (taxable income, gain, loss, credits, etc.) are reported and taxed on the shareholder(s) individual tax returns. The S corporation itself usually does not pay federal income tax.
Most states replicate this treatment to a large extent. For example, in my home state of California, S corporation income is reported on the shareholders’ tax returns, but the S corporation itself is subject to a 1.5% income tax (with a minimum annual tax due of $800 regardless of income).
The Self-Employment Tax Savings and Reasonable Compensation
There is another wrinkle to S corporations which can make them advantageous to solopreneurs. The S corporation must pay owner-employees reasonable compensation as W-2 salary. However, the rules generally allow the owner-employee to take some of the earnings of the S corporation as a dividend. This has the rather interesting effect of, in many cases, reducing the overall payroll tax liability of the solopreneur.
Here’s a quick example of how that could work:
Aurora works as a private detective. After business expenses, she has a net income of $110,000. The payroll taxes she pays will depend on whether the business is organized as a sole proprietorship or an S corporation.
If she is operating as a sole proprietorship, she will pay $15,543 in self-employment taxes, as computed on Schedule SE (roughly, 14.13% of her profits are due in self-employment taxes).
Things are different if the business is organized as an S corporation. Assume, just for the sake of this example, that the S corporation pays Aurora $55,000 in W-2 compensation and this is reasonable. The FICA tax she and the S corporation together pay is 15.3% of that amount, $8,415.
In this example, Aurora saves over $7,000 in payroll taxes by electing to operate out of an S corporation.
Of course, compensation must be reasonable. S corporation owner-employees who pay themselves very small W-2 salaries can have dividend payments recharacterized as W-2 salary, prompting disputes with the IRS and state taxing agencies and the collection of back payroll taxes.
Solopreneur Requirements for an S Corporation
Below I discuss, very broadly, the general requirements to establish and maintain an S corporation for a solopreneur who does not employ other people. Those items with a single asterisk can (but does not have to) apply to a Schedule C sole proprietorship (for example, for solopreneurs a limited liability company can be either a Schedule C sole proprietorship or an S corporation). The item with a double asterisk also applies to a sole proprietorship, but perhaps to a somewhat lesser extent.
Entity Formation*
To have an S corporation, one must operate out of a legal entity. Generally, the legal entity can be a corporation or a limited liability company (an “LLC”). Corporations and LLCs are creatures of state law. Each state has its own formation and regulation procedures, requirements, and fees. Often it is wise to consult with legal counsel when forming a legal entity.
Under the federal income tax rules, an S corporation generally must have 100 or fewer shareholders and only a single class of stock outstanding.
Tax Election
Electing S corporation status requires the filing of a Form 2553 with the IRS with the signatures of all the shareholders. In community property states, usually one’s spouse is considered a shareholder. Taxpayers omitting a spouse’s signature where the S corporation stock is community property can fix the omission under the procedure available under Revenue Procedure 2004-35.
Entity Maintenance*
Legal entities have requirements for maintenance. These vary by state, and can include annual fees, annual shareholders’ meetings, and meetings of a Board of Directors. Consultations with legal counsel can be helpful in this regard.
Separate Books, Records, and Bank Accounts**
A legal entity should have its own bank account to collect revenue and pay expenses. Most solopreneurs operating out of either a sole proprietorship or an S corporation are well advised to hire a (very likely virtual) bookkeeper to track revenues and expenses.
Separate Federal Income Tax Return
S corporations must file an annual income tax return with the federal government, the Form 1120-S. Included in this Form is a Form K-1. Form K-1 reports to both the shareholders and the IRS the ordinary income and other tax results of the S corporation for the year that must be reported on the income tax returns of the shareholders.
Generally speaking, the Form 1120-S is due March 15th, but can be extended to September 15th.
Separate State Income Tax Return
In most states, S corporations have to file income tax returns. There can be entity level taxes on S corporations (such as California’s 1.5% income tax, $800 minimum tax) and in most states the shareholders will need to report the S corporation’s income on their own state income tax return.
Running W-2 Payroll/Reasonable Compensation
S corporations must pay their employees, including solopreneur owners, reasonable compensation. This requires running W-2 payroll, including federal and state payroll tax withholding and remittance. There are payroll processors that specialize in providing payroll services for small S corporations.
As discussed above, W-2 compensation must be reasonable.
Forms W-2, W-3, 940, and 941
There are both quarterly and annual payroll tax returns that must be filed to report salaries paid and payroll taxes withheld and remitted. The Form 941 is filed for each quarter and is generally due one month after the end of the quarter.
Forms W-2, W-3, and 940 are filed on an annual basis and generally due January 31st.
Tracking Distributions and S Corporation Stock Basis
Shareholders must track their “basis” in their S corporation stock. Generally speaking, dividends from an S corporation are not taxable to the shareholder. However, they reduce the shareholder’s basis in their S corporation stock. If the shareholder receives a distribution at a time he or she does not have basis in their S corporation stock, it triggers a taxable gain to the shareholder.
Basis should generally be tracked as part of the tax return preparation process. However, basis should also be tracked during the year prior to the shareholder taking significant dividends from the S corporation.
Increased Professional Fees
Operating out of an S corporation generally increases the professional fees a solopreneur pays. This absolutely can be worth it, but in many cases there needs to be professional assistance regarding reasonable compensation, tax filings, legal maintenance, and payroll processing.
Tax Planning
In a world without two of my favorite tax topics, the qualified business income deduction and the Solo 401(k), the analysis was usually somewhat straightforward. Estimate business income and run it through the filters of income and self-employment tax if reported on a Schedule C versus income and payroll tax if reported through an S corporation. This yielded an estimate of the overall tax savings obtained using an S corporation structure.
To make the “S corporation or Schedule C” decision, the taxpayer would then, for the most part, compare the estimated annual tax savings versus the additional administrative burden and costs associated with the S corporation.
Today, we live in a world with the qualified business income deduction and the Solo 401(k). These planning opportunities make the “S corporation or Schedule C” question more nuanced. At a minimum, solopreneurs should work with their tax advisors to model out what the income tax, self-employment tax, qualified business income deduction, and retirement plan results look like at their anticipated business income level and desired retirement plan contribution level to determine whether the S corporation or the Schedule C route is better.
Operating through an LLC
One option available to solopreneurs is operating out of an LLC as the sole owner. LLCs provide a legal entity out of which to conduct business. Properly operated, an LLC can provide a solopreneur with liability protection and reputational advantages. One great feature of LLCs is their tax flexibility. They default to disregarded status, meaning that for a solopreneur, the default option is that the taxable income of the LLC is simply reported on their Schedule C. However, using the Form 2553, a solopreneur can elect to have the LLC treated as an S corporation.
Those looking to work through an LLC should consider hiring legal counsel regarding the establishment and maintenance of their legal entity.
Conclusion
Operating out of an S corporation is a significant additional operational commitment. There are instances where it can make a great deal of sense for a solopreneur. Those considering using an S corporation should understand the administrative commitment involved and should work with advisors as appropriate to ensure they make an informed decision.
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This post is for entertainment and educational purposes only. It does not constitute accounting, financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Please consult with your advisor(s) regarding your personal accounting, financial, investment, legal, and tax matters. Please also refer to the Disclaimer & Warning section found here.
Thinking of shifting to self-employment? If you’re thinking about starting a business and being your own boss, one of the things you need to do is figure out how to pay taxes. The transition from W-2 work to self-employment significantly alters the tax landscape.
Below I discuss the taxes self-employed solopreneurs are subject to and how to pay them. As always, the below is for educational purposes only and is not tax advice for any particular taxpayer.
Taxes Paid by the Self-Employed
Federal Income Tax
The first tax is the exact same tax you paid as a W-2 worker: federal income tax. The determination of how much of your income is subject to this tax is a bit different. As a W-2 employee, you received a Form W-2, and, generally speaking, Box 1 of Form W-2 told you how much of your income was subject to federal income taxes.
As a self-employed individual, you now need to track the income and expenses of your business. Solopreneurs should strongly consider practices such as having a separate bank account for the business and hiring a bookkeeper, possibly a virtual one.
Income and expenses of the solopreneur’s business are reported annually on a Schedule C filed with Form 1040 every year. The amount of income computed on Schedule C is taxable on Form 1040.
Federal Self-Employment Tax
Congratulations on the transition to self-employment! You just signed up for a new tax: the federal self-employment tax. It’s actually (roughly speaking) the same FICA tax you paid as a W-2 employee, but now you pay it yourself (instead of through employer W-2 withholding), and you pay both halves of it.
Here is an example of federal self-employment tax:
Leslie reports self-employment income of $80,000 on her Schedule C. Leslie has no W-2 income. Her self-employment tax is $11,304, computed as 14.13 percent of $80,000.
One’s self-employment tax will not always be approximately 14.13 percent of self-employment income. That said, in many cases 14.13 percent will be the approximate percentage. Self-employment tax is computed and reported annually on Schedule SE. Schedule SE is filed with the annual Form 1040.
To account for the fact that the self-employed pay both halves of the payroll tax (the employee side and the employer side), they receive an income tax deduction (from adjusted gross income) on Schedule 1, line 14 for the “employer” half of the payroll tax.
State Income Tax
Most states have an income tax, and the self-employed must pay it too, no different than when one is a W-2 employee.
Local Taxes
Localities have various taxes solopreneurs may be subject to. First, there may be a general business tax which is often either a flat annual fee or a small percentage of revenue. Especially with the latter, there may be an exemption amount (usually, a revenue threshold) below which the solopreneur does not owe the tax. It is usually important to register with your locality to be able to claim any exemption from these taxes.
Second, localities sometimes impose a separate sales tax on particular industries or goods.
It is best to look into these taxes upfront. Localities know that sometimes small businesses miss these taxes and are usually willing to work with those who apply for relief for any missed filings or payments.
Paying Taxes
Now that we’ve discussed the broad categories of taxes the self-employed are subject to, the next step is to determine how and when to pay those taxes.
Federal Income Tax and Self-Employment Tax
This is one stop shopping. The federal tax rules require the self-employed to pay estimated taxes in quarterly payments (referred to as estimated tax payments). The dates they are due for each quarter of the year are as follows (assume the estimated tax payments account for Year 1):
Quarter
Date Estimated Tax Payment is Due
First Quarter
April 15, Year 1
Second Quarter
June 15, Year 1
Third Quarter
September 15, Year 1
Fourth Quarter
January 15, Year 2
Note that if a payment due date occurs on a weekend or federal holiday, generally the due date is moved to the next day that is not a weekend and/or a federal holiday.
Generally speaking, the estimated tax payment must include both the estimated income tax due and the estimated self-employment tax due. Further, it must account for all taxable income (interest, dividends, capital gains, etc.), not just self-employment income.
Failure to pay in sufficient amounts on time can lead to an underpayment penalty computed on Form 2210. Usually, the amount required to avoid an underpayment penalty is the lesser of (i) 90 percent of the current year tax due (paid in timely, equal payments) or (ii) 110 percent of the previous year tax due (paid in timely, equal payments). These two standards are often referred to as safe harbors.
Note that if previous year adjusted gross income was less than $150,000, the 110 percent safe harbor drops to 100 percent.
For those with growing incomes, the 110 percent safe harbor often works best. Those who have filed your Year 1 tax return by April 15, Year 2 (or at least have it just about ready to go) can take the total tax due number from the Form 1040, multiply it by 1.1, and divide it by 4 to get the amount of the required quarterly estimated tax payment to be good to go. Here is an example:
Josh is self-employed and filed his Year 1 tax return on April 1, Year 2. His business is growing. His total federal tax for Year 1 (including income tax and self-employment tax) was $45,000. Josh believes that his self-employment income could significantly increase in Year 2, so he has decided to rely upon the 110 percent safe harbor to pay his estimated tax. He multiplies $45,000 by 1.1 and then divides that product ($49,500) by 4 to get his quarterly estimated tax payment of $12,375). He makes four $12,375 payments to the IRS no later than April 15, Year 2, June 15, Year 2, September 15, Year 2, and January 15, Year 3.
The nice thing about this strategy is that Josh is now protected against the underpayment penalty even if he wins the lottery during Year 2. He simply makes those estimated payments and then, with his Year 2 Form 1040, he pays the IRS the balance due, which could be quite large. But regardless of the balance due, Josh’s underpayment penalty is $0.
Taxpayers who might be subject to the underpayment penalty can request relief from it on the Form 2210 and/or “annualize” their income on Form 2210 to prove that the majority of their income came from later in the year (and thus estimated taxes paid later in year are sufficient for the current year’s estimated tax). Using the 110 percent safe harbor generally eliminates the need to look to mitigation tactics.
Paying the IRS
Solopreneurs can mail estimated taxes to the IRS with a Form 1040-ES. Alternatively, solopreneurs can use the IRS DirectPay system and pay electronically at this IRS website.
State Income Taxes
States with income taxes also generally require periodic or quarterly estimated tax payments. Many follow some or all of the IRS rules. My home state of California has its own timing rules for estimated tax payments. It generally requires taxpayers to pay 30 percent of their estimated income tax liability during the first quarter (April 15th due date), the next 40 percent of their estimated income tax liability during the second quarter (June 15th) and the remaining 30 percent after the end of the fourth quarter (the following January 15th).
States, like the IRS, generally have website portals where solopreneurs can make estimated tax payments.
The Transition Year
Transitions from W-2 work to solopreneurship presents many challenges and opportunities. One potential opportunity is the need to pay less or possibly no estimated taxes for the year of the transition. This can be true for several reasons.
It may be that based on the W-2 withholding collected prior to leaving full time employment, the new solopreneur had enough withheld to cover the tax on their annual income. W-2 withholding generally assumes a full year of employment, but if one leaves full time employment and experiences start-up expenses and lower self-employment income as they build a business, it may be the case that they need to make little or no estimated tax payments in that first year.
Another source of tax payments is spousal W-2 withholding. If filing jointly with a spouse, the spouse’s W-2 withholding combined with the new solopreneur’s partial year W-2 withholding might be enough to cover the estimated taxes for the transition year.
EINs and Forms 1099
In most cases, it makes sense for sole proprietors to obtain an employer identification number (“EIN”) from the IRS for their sole proprietorship. This EIN is used on the business’s Schedule C. Further, this number is used (instead of a Social Security number) to file any required Forms 1099s paid with respect to the business. Forms 1099 (such as the Form 1099-NEC) are required for cash payments of $600 or more during the year to individuals in the course of business.
The IRS has an internet portal here for taxpayers to apply online for EINs.
Tax Planning
The transition from W-2 employment to self-employment can provide several tax planning challenges and opportunities. Here is a brief overview of several challenges and opportunities.
Qualified Business Income Deduction
The Section 199A qualified business income deduction is a relatively new deduction for small businesses, including solopreneurs. I have previously blogged about this deduction here and here.
Roth Conversions for the Self-Employed
The transition to self-employment may present Roth conversion opportunities, for two reasons. First, as a business starts up, the soloprenuer’s taxable income might be very low, and thus a start up year might be a great time to execute a Roth conversion (i.e., moving amounts from traditional IRAs/401(k)s etc. to Roth accounts) and enjoy a low marginal federal income tax rate on the converted amount.
Second, there are instances where Roth conversions by the self-employed can benefit from the Section 199A qualified business income deduction. I blogged about that opportunity here.
S Corporations
Many solopreneurs will have the opportunity to operate out of what is referred to as an “S corporation” for U.S. federal tax purposes. There are several advantages to operating out of an S corporation, but there are also some disadvantages.
Next month’s blog post discusses S corporations and some of the planning considerations involved.
Solo 401(k)s
Solopreneurs are responsible for their own workplace retirement account. The Solo 401(k) is a great opportunity for many solopreneurs to stash significant amounts into tax-advantaged retirement accounts.
As I announced in March, I’m currently working on a book about Solo 401(k)s, which is tentatively set to be published in early 2022.
Hiring Professionals
To my mind, the shift from W-2 employment to self-employment often signals the need to hire a tax return preparer, and possibly a (virtual) bookkeeper as well. Self-employment significantly increases the complexity of one’s tax return and thus it is often wise for the self-employed to hire a tax return preparer and a bookkeeper.
Conclusion
The shift to self-employment is both exciting and challenging. Yes, the self-employed have a more complicated tax picture. But with some intentional planning, managing and ultimately optimizing the tax picture is very much possible.
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This post is for entertainment and educational purposes only. It does not constitute accounting, financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Please consult with your advisor(s) regarding your personal accounting, financial, investment, legal, and tax matters. Please also refer to the Disclaimer & Warning section found here.
Qualified charitable distributions (“QCDs”) are an exciting tax planning opportunity, particularly for the FI community. Below I describe what a qualified charitable distribution is and how members of the FI community should think about them when tax planning.
Of course, this post is educational in nature. Nothing in this blog post is tax advice for any particular taxpayer. Please consult your own tax advisor regarding your unique circumstances.
Qualified Charitable Distributions
QCDs are transfers from a traditional IRA directly to a charity. Up to $100K annually, they are (a) not included in the taxpayer’s taxable income, (b) not deductible as charitable contributions, and (c) qualify as “required minimum distributions” (“RMDs”) (to the lesser of the taxpayer’s required minimum distribution or the actual distribution to the charity). Here is an example:
Example 1: Jack and Jill are 75 years old and file their tax return married filing joint. Jack has a RMD from his traditional IRA of $40,000 in 2021. Jack directs his traditional IRA institution to transfer $40,000 during 2021 to a section 501(c)(3) charity. Jack and Jill recognize no taxable income on the transfer, and Jack does not have to take his 2021 RMD (the $40K QCD having covered it). Further, Jack and Jill receive no charitable contribution deduction for the transfer.
Considering that Jack & Jill (both age 75) enjoy a standard deduction of $27,800 in 2021, they get both the standard deduction and a $40K deduction for the charitable contribution from the traditional IRA (since they do not have to include the $40K in their taxable income). This is the best of both worlds. Further, excluding the $40K from “adjusted gross income” (“AGI”) is actually better than taking the $40K as an itemized deduction, since many tests for tax benefits are keyed off of AGI instead of taxable income.
Important QCD Considerations
Take QCDs Early
Generally speaking, it is best that QCDs come out of the traditional IRA early in the year. Why? Because under the tax rules, RMDs come out of a traditional IRA first. So it is usually optimal to take the QCD early in the year so it can fulfill all or part of the required minimum distribution for the year. Then you can do Roth conversion planning (if desired), so long as the full RMD has already been withdrawn (either or both through a QCD and a regular distribution) from the traditional IRA first.
No Trinkets
I don’t care how much you love your PBS tote bag: do not accept any gift or token of appreciation from the charity. The receipt of anything (other than satisfaction) from the charity blows the QCD treatment. So be sure not to accept anything from the charity in exchange for your QCD.
QCDs Available Only from Traditional IRAs
In order to take advantage of QCD treatment, the account must be a traditional IRA. 401(k)s and other workplace plans do not qualify for QCDs. Further, SIMPLE IRAs and SEP IRAs do not qualify for QCD treatment.
As a practical matter, this is not much of an issue. If you want to do a QCD out of a 401(k) or other tax advantaged account, generally all you need to do is rollover the account to a traditional IRA.
QCD Age Requirement
In order to take advantage of the QCD opportunity, the traditional IRA owner must be aged 70 ½ or older.
Inherited IRAs
QCDs are available to the beneficiary of an inherited IRA so long as the beneficiary is age 70 ½ or older.
QCDs For Those Age 70 ½ and Older
If you are aged 70 ½ or older and charitably inclined, the QCD often is the go-to technique for charitable giving. In most cases, it makes sense to make your charitable contributions directly from your traditional IRA, up to $100,000 per year. QCDs help shield RMDs from taxation and help keep AGI low.
QCDs and the Pro-Rata Rule
If you have made previous non-deductible contributions to your traditional IRA, distributions are generally subject to the pro-rata rule (i.e., the old contributions are recovered ratably as distributions come out of the traditional IRA).
However, QCDs are not subject to the pro-rata rule! This has a positive effect on future taxable distributions from the traditional IRA. Here is an example of how this works:
Example 2: Mike is age 75. On January 1, 2021, he had a traditional IRA worth $500,000 to which he previously made $50,000 of nondeductible contributions. If Mike makes a $10,000 QCD to his favorite charity, his traditional IRA goes down in value to $490,000. However, his QCD does not take out any of his $50,000 of basis from nondeductible contributions. This has the nice effect of reducing the tax on future taxable distributions to Mike from the traditional IRA, since the QCD reduces denominator (by $10K) for determining how much basis is recovered, while the numerator ($50K) is unaffected.
QCDs for Those Under Age 70 ½
Those in the FI community considering early retirement need to strongly consider Roth conversions. The general idea is that if you can retire early with sufficient wealth to support your lifestyle, you can have several years before age 70 during which your taxable income is artificially low. During those years, you can convert old traditional retirement accounts Roth accounts while you are taxed at very low federal income tax brackets.
For the charitably inclined, the planning should account for the QCD opportunity. There is no reason to convert almost every dime to Roth accounts if you plan on giving significant sums to charity during your retirement. Why pay any federal or state income tax on amounts that you ultimately will give to charity?
If you are under the age of 70 ½ and are charitably inclined, QCDs should be part of your long term financial independence gameplan. You should leave enough in your traditional retirement accounts to support your charitable giving at age 70 ½ and beyond (up to $100K annually). These amounts can come out as tax-free QCDs at that point, so why pay any tax on these amounts in your 50s or 60s? Generally speaking, a Roth conversion strategy should account for QCDs for the charitably inclined.
Conclusion
For the charitably inclined, QCDs can be a great way to manage taxable income and qualify for tax benefits in retirement. QCDs also reduce the pressure on Roth conversion planning prior to age 72, since it provides a way to keep money in traditional accounts without having to pay tax on that money.
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This post is for entertainment and educational purposes only. It does not constitute accounting, financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Please consult with your advisor(s) regarding your personal accounting, financial, investment, legal, and tax matters. Please also refer to the Disclaimer & Warning section found here.
The Roth IRA is 25 years old as of 2023 (its birthday was January 1st). Yet there is still confusion about the rules applicable whenever someone withdraws money from a Roth IRA prior to turning 59 ½. This blog post attempts to correct some misconceptions on the taxation of nonqualified Roth IRA withdrawals.
Watch me discuss Roth IRA withdrawals.
Roth IRAs: The Basics
A Roth IRA is a tax-advantaged account that generally offers tax-free growth for invested amounts. Taxpayers receive no upfront tax deduction for putting money into a Roth IRA. If properly executed, taxpayers can withdraw money from a Roth IRA entirely tax and penalty free, and can enjoy years of tax-free growth on the amounts invested in a Roth IRA.
I have previously blogged about why I believe the Roth IRA is a great tax-advantaged account in my An Ode to the Roth IRA.
Roth IRA Funding
How does one move money into a Roth IRA? There are three ways.
Annual Contributions
Generally speaking, if your income is below certain limits, you can contribute up to the lesser of $6,500 or your earned income (2023 limits) to a Roth IRA. If you are aged 50 or older, the limits are the lesser of $7,500 or earned income (2023 limits).
I discussed Roth IRA annual contributions, including the income limits on the ability to make Roth IRA contributions, in this post.
Conversions
Amounts can be converted from traditional retirement accounts into a Roth IRA. Any taxpayer can convert amounts from a traditional retirement account to a Roth IRA. There are no restrictions based on level of income and/or having had earned income.
Conversions are taxable in the year of the conversion.
There are several reasons you might want to do a Roth IRA conversion. One might be the anticipation of paying tax at a higher rate in the future. The planning concept is to “lock in” the lower tax rate in the year of the conversion rather than tomorrow’s (anticipated) higher tax rate, and to get all of the earnings on the contribution out of income taxation.
Unlimited Roth IRA conversions form the backbone of the Backdoor Roth IRA planning concept.
Note that inherited traditional IRAs cannot be converted to Roth IRAs.
Transfers from Workplace Retirement Accounts
A third way to get money into a Roth IRA is by using workplace retirement accounts. Amounts in Roth 401(k)s and other workplace Roth accounts can be transferred into a Roth IRA. Generally, it is best to use direct “trustee-to-trustee” transfers to accomplish this.
Further, after-tax contributions in workplace retirement plans can be directly transferred to Roth IRAs, as discussed in Notice 2014-54. The ability to transfer after-tax contributions into a Roth IRA has facilitated the use of the Mega Backdoor Roth IRA planning technique.
Roth IRA Withdrawals: The Confusion
You may have heard that you cannot take money out of a Roth IRA if the account is not 5 years old without paying tax and a penalty. Not true!
There are not one, but two, five (5) year rules applicable to Roth IRAs. But neither one of them prohibit you from taking money out of a Roth IRA you have previously contributed through annual contributions. First, I will illustrate the default Roth IRA withdrawal rules, and then I will discuss the two 5 year rules.
Quick Thought: Most of this blog post addresses situations where the taxpayer does not qualify for a qualified distribution. Generally, a taxpayer fails to qualify for a qualified distribution if he or she has not attained the age of 59 ½, and/or if he or she has not owned a Roth IRA for 5 years. The advantage of a qualified distribution is that it is automatically tax and penalty free.
Roth IRA Withdrawals: The Layers
Here is the default order of distributions that come out of a Roth IRA. These are the rules that apply in cases where the taxpayer does not qualify for a qualified distribution. All Roth IRAs (other than inherited Roth IRAs) the taxpayer owns are aggregated for purposes of determining his or her Roth IRA layers.
First Layer: Tax-free return of Roth IRA contributions
Second Layer: Roth IRA conversions (first-in, first-out)
Third Layer: Roth IRA earnings
Each layer must come out entirely before the subsequent layer is accessed.
Here’s a brief example:
Example 1: Samantha opened her only Roth IRA in 2018. Samantha has made three prior $5,000 contributions to her Roth IRA (one for each of 2018, 2019, and 2020). She also made a $5,000 conversion from a traditional IRA to a Roth IRA in 2018. In 2021, at a time when her Roth IRA is worth $30,000 and Samantha is 50 years old, she takes a $10,000 withdrawal from her Roth IRA. All $10,000 will be a recovery of her previous contributions (leaving her with $5,000 remaining of previous contributions). Thus, the entire $10,000 distribution from the Roth IRA will be tax and penalty free.
The Roth IRA contributions come out tax and penalty free at any time for any reason! The 5 year rules have nothing to do with whether a taxpayer can recover their previous Roth IRA contributions tax and penalty free!
For those wanting to dig deeper into the tax law, please refer to this technical slide deck discussing why the Roth IRA contributions are distributed tax and penalty free regardless of the 5 year rules.
Note that aggregation rules always apply. In making an analysis like the one provided in Example 1, one must account for all their Roth IRAs and treat all of their Roth IRAs as a single Roth IRA to determine their own Roth IRA layers. Roth 401(k)s and inherited Roth IRAs are not included in the analysis.
5 Year Rule for Roth IRA Earnings
The first five-year rule for Roth IRAs applies only to a withdrawal of earnings from a Roth IRA. If the account owner has not owned a Roth IRA for at least 5 years, the earnings withdrawn from the account are subject to ordinary income tax (and possibly a penalty).
Example 2: Joe is 62 years old in 2024. He has owned a Roth IRA since 2021. In 2024, after having made $14,000 in prior annual contributions to his Roth IRA, he withdrew $17,000 from the Roth IRA. Because Joe has not owned a Roth IRA for 5 years, the withdrawal is not a qualified distribution. Joe recovers his first $14,000 tax free as a return of contributions. The next $3,000 of earnings is taxable to Joe as ordinary income (because of the first five-year rule). Because Joe is over age 59 ½, he does not owe the ten percent penalty on the distribution. If Joe had not attained the age of 59 ½, he would owe the 10 percent penalty on the $3,000 of earnings he received.
5 Year Rule for Roth IRA Conversions
There is a five-year rule applicable to taxable money converted from a traditional retirement account to a Roth IRA (what I will colloquially refer to as the “second five-year rule”). The idea behind the second five-year rule is to protect the 10% early withdrawal penalty applicable when someone has a traditional retirement account. Here is an illustrative example.
Example 3: Milton has $100,000 in a traditional IRA, no basis in any IRA, and is age 50. If he were to withdraw $1,000 from his traditional IRA (assuming no penalty exception applies), he would owe (in addition to ordinary income tax) a $100 penalty (ten percent) on the withdrawal.
Okay, but what if Milton first converts that money from a traditional IRA to a Roth IRA (assume Milton has no other balance in a Roth IRA)? Would that get him out of the 10 percent penalty? No, it won’t, because of the second five-year rule.
Example 4: Milton has $100,000 in a traditional IRA, no basis in any IRA, has no Roth IRAs, and is age 50. In September 2024, he converts $1,000 to a Roth IRA. In October 2024, he withdraws $1,000 from that Roth IRA. Because of the five-year rule applicable to Roth IRA conversions, Milton will still owe the $100 penalty on the withdrawal from the Roth IRA.
Had Milton waited until 2029 or later, he would not have owed the penalty on the withdrawal of that $1,000.
The 5 Year Rule for Roth IRA Conversions and the Backdoor Roth IRA
The Backdoor Roth IRA is subject to the second five-year rule, but the penalty effect turns out to be very minor (or non-existent) if the Backdoor Roth IRA has been properly executed.
Conversions, the second layer of the Roth IRA stack, come out first-in, first out. Further, the taxable amount (potentially subject to the 10 percent penalty upon withdrawal) of any one particular Roth IRA conversion comes out first within the conversion amount. Thus, the second layer (the conversion layer) can be composed of several mini-layers.
Here is a quick example:
Example 5: Denzel made $6,000 nondeductible traditional IRA contributions on January 1, 2019 and January 1, 2020. On February 2, 2019 and February 2, 2020, Denzel converted the entire balance of the traditional IRA ($6,010 each time) to a Roth IRA. As of December 31, 2019 and December 31, 2020, Denzel had $0 balances in all traditional IRAs, SEP IRAs, and SIMPLE IRAs.
In 2021, at a time when Denzel is 35 years old and has made no other contributions or conversions to a Roth IRA, he withdraws $3,000 from his Roth IRA. The first $10 of the withdrawal will be from the taxable amount of his 2019 Roth conversion, and thus, will be subject to the 10 percent penalty as it violates the second five-year rule (Denzel will owe $1 in penalties). The next $2,990 is attributable to the non-taxable portion of his 2019 Roth conversion, and as such, will not be subject to the 10 percent penalty. None of the $3,000 will be subject to ordinary income tax.
Penalty Exceptions
From time to time you will hear things such as “you can withdraw only $10,000 from a Roth IRA for a first-time home purchase.” Does that mean everything else discussed above does not apply?
Fortunately, the answer is no!
So what is the $10,000 rule getting at? It is getting at amounts withdrawn from a Roth IRA that would otherwise be subject to the penalty (and possibly income taxes — see The Super Exceptions below).
There are several penalty exceptions applicable to taxable converted amounts and earnings that are withdrawn from a Roth IRA in a nonqualified distribution. But the penalty exception rules generally apply on top of the usual layering rules, not instead of the usual Roth IRA layering rules.
In a discussion on social media, I used a version of the following example.
Example 6: Jane Taxpayer, age 30, has had a Roth IRA since 2017. In 2020, she withdraws $30,000 from her Roth IRA to acquire her first home, and has never used traditional IRA and/or Roth IRA money for such a purchase. She has previously made $20,000 in annual contributions to the Roth IRA. The first $20,000 of the withdrawal is a tax-free return of those contributions (see the layers above). The next $10,000 is out of earnings (see the layers above). This $10,000 is taxable to her as ordinary income. But, because of the $10,000 “qualified first-time homebuyer distribution” exception, she does not owe the 10 percent penalty on the withdrawal of those earnings.
In this case, withdrawals used to fund certain home purchases can qualify for a penalty exception (the first-time homebuyer exception is subject to a $10,000 cap). Please visit this website for a list of the possible penalty exceptions applicable to withdrawals from a traditional IRA and a Roth IRA.
The Super Exceptions
If the taxpayer is relying on the disability, age 59 ½, death, or qualified first-time home purchase penalty exceptions, the earnings also come out income tax free so long as the taxpayer has owned a Roth IRA for five years. See slide 5 of the above referenced technical slide deck.
As applied to Jane Taxpayer in Example 6 above, if she had owned a Roth IRA since any time in 2015 or earlier, the distribution of $10,000 of earnings would not only have been penalty free, it would have also been income tax free.
60 Day Rollovers
A taxpayer might take money out of a Roth IRA and then reconsider. Perhaps he or she wants the money to grow tax-free. Or perhaps the taxpayer dipped into earnings and the distribution is not a qualified distribution, meaning that it will likely be subject to both ordinary income and a ten percent penalty.
He or she might be able to roll the money back into the Roth IRA. However, the tax rules allow only one 60 day rollover every 12 months. The IRS has a website here discussing some of the issues.
Because of the one-rollover-per-year rule, I generally advise against doing 60 day rollovers unless you need to. Generally, it is best to avoid them, and then have the option available as a life raft if money somehow comes out of a Roth IRA (or other IRA) when it should not have.
Required Minimum Distributions
There are no required minimum distributions from a Roth IRA! Every other non-HSA tax-advantaged retirement account, including the Roth 401(k), has required minimum distributions.
Note that required minimum distributions are generally required once the Roth IRA becomes an inherited Roth IRA (in the hands of anyone but certain surviving spouses).
Tax Planning
Okay, so taxpayers always have tax and penalty free access to old Roth IRA annual contributions. So what of it? As a practical matter, maybe nothing.
In most cases, it makes sense to simply keep the money in the Roth IRA and let it grow tax free!
That said, there can be instances where, as part of a well crafted financial plan, it can make sense to withdraw previous Roth IRA contributions prior to age 59 ½. Further, it is good to know that, in an emergency situation, those old Roth IRA contributions are accessible.
Of course, prior to taking an early withdrawal from a Roth IRA, it is usually best to consult with your own financial advisor and/or tax advisor.
FI Tax Guy can be your financial planner! Find out more by visiting mullaneyfinancial.com
This post is for entertainment and educational purposes only. It does not constitute accounting, financial, investment, legal, or tax advice. Please consult with your advisor(s) regarding your personal accounting, financial, investment, legal, and tax matters. Please also refer to the Disclaimer & Warning section found here.
Roth 401(k)s are gaining prominence as a tax-advantaged workplace retirement account. This post provides introductory information regarding Roth 401(k)s and their potential benefits as a retirement savings account.
Two important introductory notes. First, not all 401(k) plans offer a Roth option, so for some employees, a Roth 401(k) contribution is not an option. Second, this post is for educational purposes only and is not advice for any particular taxpayer.
Traditional 401(k) versus Roth 401(k)
In an ideal world, contributions by an employee to a traditional 401(k) result in a tax deduction when contributed, and taxable income when withdrawn.
Example 1: Tony makes $100,000 from his employer in W-2 wages in 2021. Tony contributes $15,000 during the course of 2021 to his employer’s traditional 401(k). Tony will receive a W-2 from his employer reporting $85,000 of taxable W-2 wages for 2021.
In an ideal world, contributions by an employee to a Roth 401(k) result in no tax deduction when contributed, and no taxable income when withdrawn.
Example 2: Rudy makes $100,000 from his employer in W-2 wages in 2021. Rudy contributes $15,000 during the course of 2021 to his employer’s Roth 401(k). Rudy will receive a W-2 from his employer reporting $100,000 of taxable W-2 wages for 2021.
Roth 401(k) Contributions
Employees can contribute the lesser of their earned income or $19,500 (2021 limit) to a Roth 401(k) in “employee deferrals.” For those 50 years old or older, the 2021 limit is the lesser of earned income or $26,000.
The employee deferral limit factors in both traditional 401(k) employee contributions and Roth 401(k) employee contributions. Here’s an illustrative example.
Example 3: Sarah, age 35, earns $100,000 in W-2 income in 2021 at Acme Industries, Inc. Sarah contributes the maximum to her 401(k) plan. Assuming Acme offers both a traditional 401(k) and a Roth 401(k), that maximum $19,500 contribution can be split up however Sarah chooses ($13,000 to the traditional 401(k) and $6,500 to the Roth 401(k), $5,000 to the traditional 401(k) and $14,500 to the Roth 401(k), etc.).
Any combination (including all in the traditional or all in the Roth) is permissible as long as the total does not exceed $19,500 (using 2021’s limits).
Roth 401(k) Contributions: Income Limits
There’s good news here. Unlike their Roth IRA cousins, Roth 401(k) contributions have no income limits. In theory, one could make $1 billion annually in W-2 income and still contribute $19,500 to a Roth 401(k).
Matching Contributions
Employer matching contributions are one of the best benefits of 401(k) plans.
Example 4: Elaine, age 35, works at Perry Publishing. She earns a salary of $50,000. Perry matches 50% of the first 6% of salary that Elaine contributes to her 401(k). Elaine decides to contribute $3,000 (6 percent) of her salary to the 401(k) as a Roth contribution. Perry contributes $1,500 as a matching contribution. The $1,500 employer match goes into the 401(k) as a traditional contribution. The $3,000 and its growth are treated as a Roth 401(k), and the $1,500 and its growth are treated as a traditional 401(k).
Matching contributions may be subject to vesting requirements, as described in this post. Employee contributions to a 401(k) (whether traditional or Roth) are always 100% vested.
Roth 401(k) Withdrawals
The greatest benefits of a Roth 401(k) are tax-free growth and tax-free withdrawals. Tax-free withdrawals are generally the goal, but they are not automatic. Recently, I wrote a post on Roth 401(k) withdrawals.
One important consideration regarding Roth 401(k) withdrawals: Roth 401(k)s are subject to the required minimum distribution rules starting at age 72. Thus, you must start withdrawing money from a Roth 401(k) at age 72. As a result, you will have less wealth growing tax-free. For this reason, many consider rolling Roth 401(k)s to Roth IRAs prior to age 72.
Conclusion
Roth 401(k)s provide a great opportunity to save and invest for retirement. Taxpayers should consider their own circumstances, and often consult with tax professionals, in deciding their own investment program.
Further Reading
For more information about 401(k) plans, please read this post.
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It won’t surprise many to find out that a tax-focused financial planner is fond of the Roth IRA. Below is a brief review of the advantages of a Roth IRA.
Tax Free Growth
Amounts in Roth IRAs grow tax free. Considering many Americans may now live into their 80s, 90s, and beyond, this is a tremendous benefit.
The only caveat is that in order for all distributions from Roth IRAs to be tax and penalty free, they generally have to be either (a) a return of contributions or of sufficiently aged conversions (see below), or (b) a distribution of earnings made in the Roth IRA (or other amounts in the Roth IRA) at a time when the owner of the account is 59 ½ or older and has owned a Roth IRA for at least five years.
The rules for ordering distributions out of a Roth IRA generally provide that contributions come out first, and then the oldest conversions come out next. This means that in many cases Roth IRA distributions, even those occurring before age 59 ½, are tax and penalty free.
N.B. Generally speaking, you want to only take a distribution from a Roth IRA before age 59 ½ if it is either (i) a serious emergency or (ii) part of a well crafted, very intentional financial plan.
Ease of Administration and Withdrawal
There are many financial institutions that provide Roth IRAs. Investment expenses in low-cost index funds at financial institutions that provide Roth IRAs are approaching zero. Vanguard, Fidelity, and Schwab are among the very good providers of low-cost Roth IRAs (and there are others).
It is also relatively easy to access money inside a Roth IRA. This makes the Roth IRA a great account to have in an emergency. Of course, it is generally best to leave money inside a Roth IRA to let it grow tax free, but it is good to know that you can access money in a Roth IRA relatively easily if an emergency arises.
Tax Free Withdrawals of Contributions
This is a great benefit of the Roth IRA. Contributions to a Roth IRA can be withdrawn at any time for any reason tax and penalty free. Further, the first money deemed distributed from a Roth IRA is a contribution. Here is a quick example:
Mark is 35 years old in 2025. He made $6,000 contributions to his Roth IRA in each of 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, and 2024 (for $30,000 total). In 2025, when his Roth IRA is worth $41,000, Mark withdraws $10,000 from his Roth IRA in 2025. All $10,000 will be deemed to be a return of contributions, and thus entirely tax free and penalty free.
The only exception is a taxpayer favorable exception: a timely withdrawal of an excess contribution (and related earnings) occurs before regular contributions are considered withdrawn.
N.B. Roth 401(k)s, 403(b)s, and 457s have different distribution rules — most pre-age 59 ½ distributions will take out some taxable earnings.
Tax Free Withdrawals of Sufficiently Aged Converted Amounts
If you convert an amount into a Roth IRA, you start a five year clock as of January 1st of the year of the conversion. Quick example:
Mike is 35 years old in 2025. Mike converts $10,000 from a traditional IRA to a Roth IRA on July 2, 2025. His five year conversion clock starts January 1, 2025. On January 1, 2030, Mike can withdraw the entire $10,000 he converted in 2025 tax and penalty free.
This feature of the Roth IRA, the tax free withdrawal of sufficiently aged conversions, is the basis for the Roth Conversion Ladder strategy. Sufficiently aged converted amounts are deemed to come out after contributions are exhausted and before more recent conversions and earnings come out.
No Required Minimum Distributions
During an account holder’s lifetime, there are no required minimum distributions from a Roth IRA. You can live to 150 and never be required to take money from a Roth IRA.
Creditor Protection
In federal bankruptcy proceedings, Roth IRAs are (as of 2024), protected up to $1,512,350.
Where there can be differences in liability protection are state general creditor claims (i.e., creditor protection in non-bankruptcy situations). In some states, Roth IRAs receive a level of creditor protection similar to that of ERISA plans. Generally, such protection is absolute against all creditors except for an ex-spouse or the IRS.
In other states, Roth IRAs receive no or limited creditor protection. In my home state of California, Roth IRAs are only creditor protected up to the amount necessary to provide for you and your dependents in your retirement (as determined by the court). Such protection is valuable but hardly airtight.
A Sneaky Way to Contribute More to Your Retirement
Yes, in theory everyone should save for retirement based on exacting calculations (i.e., I estimate I need $X in retirement, so based on projections I save $A in traditional accounts and $B in Roth accounts this year). That’s the theory.
In practice, it’s “I maxed out this account and that account” or “I put $C into this account and $D into that account.” There isn’t that much wrong with how we practically save for retirement, as long as we are saving sufficient amounts for retirement.
But not all “maxing out” is created equal. We know this because if Jane has $100,000 in a traditional IRA and Mary has $100,000 in a Roth IRA, who has more wealth? Mary! Unless Jane can always be in a zero percent income tax bracket, Mary has more than Jane, even though they both nominally have $100,000.
A Great Account to Leave to Heirs
While non-spouse heirs will have to take taxable required distributions from inherited IRAs (in many cases beginning in 2020 they will need to drain the account within 10 years of death), heirs are never taxed on distributions from Roth IRAs. This makes a Roth IRA a great account to leave to your heirs.
Compare with Other Retirement Accounts
No other retirement account combines ease of administration and withdrawal, low costs, significant tax benefits, creditor protection, and great emergency access the way the Roth IRA does. Most workplace retirement plans have some restrictions on withdrawals. Traditional account withdrawals do not have the tax advantages of a Roth IRA. Distributions from a traditional IRA, even one at a low-cost, easy to use discount brokerage, will trigger ordinary income taxes, and possible penalties, if withdrawn for emergency use.
Financial Planning Objectives
Personal finance is indeed personal. But I submit the following: pretty much every individual has some desire (and/or need) to not work at some point in his/her lifetime and every individual needs to be prepared for emergencies. Further, these are two very important financial planning objectives for most, if not all, individuals.
If the above is true, then we must ask “which account type best supports the combination of these two pressing financial planning objectives?” It appears to me that the answer is clearly the Roth IRA.
None of this is to say that a Roth IRA is the only way to plan for retirement and plan for emergencies, but rather, it is to say that, generally speaking, a Roth IRA ought to be a material element in such planning. Other tools, such as other retirement accounts, insurances, investments in taxable accounts, and sufficiently funded emergency funds are likely needed in addition to a Roth IRA.
Retirement Accounts and Emergencies
Let’s examine how a Roth IRA might help someone facing a very serious emergency.
Picture Jack, who is 52 years old, and has a full time job. He has $1M in a traditional 401(k) and $10,000 in cash in a taxable account. That’s it. Then picture Chuck, also 52 with a full time job. Chuck has $700,000 in a traditional 401(k), $250,000 in a Roth IRA, and $10,000 in cash.
Who is better situated to deal with an emergency? Far and away the answer is Chuck. 401(k)s are difficult to access in an emergency. First of all, the 401(k) plan might not allow in-service distributions, and it might not allow taking out a loan.
Even if the 401(k) allows in-service distributions, distributions from 401(k)s are immediately taxable, and often subject to penalties (10% federal, 2.5% in California, for example) if you are under age 59 ½. Loans, while not immediately taxable, can become taxable if not paid back.
Long story short, a 401(k) may be a tough nut to crack in an emergency.
What about a Roth IRA? In Chuck’s case, he can access his prior Roth IRA contributions and sufficiently aged contributions tax and penalty free at any time for any reason! And his Roth IRA is easy to access, particularly if it is at a low-cost discount brokerage.
When you combine tax-free growth, no requirement to take required minimum distributions during the account holder’s lifetime, and the best emergency access of any tax-advantaged retirement account, it is difficult to see why working adults should not have at least some money in a Roth IRA.
When a Roth IRA Doesn’t Make Sense
The short answer is: not often! I struggle to come up with profiles of individuals that would not benefit from having some amount in a Roth IRA.
I can think of two profiles. The first, a rare case, is someone with very large legal liabilities such that all of their wealth would benefit from the creditor protections offered by an ERISA retirement plan (such as a 401(k)) and who needs almost all of their wealth shielded from creditors.
First, if you have built up 6 figures or more in wealth, having creditors able to claim your entire wealth is relatively rare. Second, in most cases, good insurance coverage, including adequate medical insurance, professional liability insurance (as applicable), home and automobile insurance, and personal umbrella liability insurance, should protect the vast majority of people such that they could withstand any liability exposure caused by having money in a Roth IRA instead of an ERISA protected plan.
The second profile is someone with incredibly high income currently and very little anticipated income in the future (such that their future tax rate is much lower than today’s rate). This too is a bit of a unicorn – people with high income today tend to have decent income tomorrow (even in the FI community).
Health Savings Accounts
It will also come as no surprise that I am fond of health savings accounts. Health savings accounts share some of the attributes that make the Roth IRA such a winner for both retirement savings and emergency planning.
But, there are some drawbacks. First, the distribution ordering rules are not as taxpayer friendly. While it may be the case that you have sufficient old medical expenses that you can reimburse yourself for (and thus not pay tax and a penalty on the HSA distribution), that is not always going to be the case, and even if it is, does add a layer of complexity.
Second, the HSA is not for everyone. If a high deductible health plan is not good medical insurance for you, an HSA is generally off the table.
So, that leaves the HSA as a fantastic option for those who qualify for and use a high deductible health plan (and usually an option that should be part of a comprehensive financial plan if you use a HDHP). But it also means that the HSA is not quite as good as a tool for the combination of retirement saving and emergency planning.
Conclusion
Assuming that an individual (a) has retirement planning and emergency preparedness as financial planning objectives and (b) is not in a position where legal liabilities would cripple them without ERISA creditor protection, it is hard to argue against having at least some material amount in a Roth IRA.
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